Slow Look Press and Roll Anymore??

[draser]

Things seem to be evolving from what they teach on BRC, or it's a matter of interpretation. Either way there's some confusion going on.
Slow = perform majority of breaking prior to entering the corner or lean. Makes sense, however there's breaking to be done while in the corner/leaned for various reasons, key is smoothness. One may be breaking all the way up until one sees the exit (bike pointed to exit).
Look and Press, not much to comment here.
Roll = they meant - in BRC class - maintenance throttle at the speed one is comfortable with. No reason to go nuts when you don't see the exit and are leaning. When you see the exit and bike is pointed that way then go for it.
Comments?

[Bob H]

...Look and Press, not much to comment here.

I believe they are referring to countersteering - and that is super important for newer riders to understand.
Press the left grip to initiate a left turn (or turn more - tighter if you are running wide).

If someone doesn't clearly understand countersteering, they can get into trouble.
If you are in an open area and practice steering with one hand, it becomes pretty obvious what is happening.

I got my MC license in 1971 so have never done the BRC (wasn't available).
the videos by Canyon Chasers are really good, and he makes a point about this issue, maybe you have seen them where he talks about changes in what should be taught.
7 tips, 7 more tips, various titles.

Anyway I think the main "change" if you can call it that, is that it is OK to go to the brakes whenever you are nervous, as long as you apply gradually and don't grab a fistfull all at once. The "old" advice was not to brake during corner, but there's only so much you can tell a new rider without overfill their cup - so it's not bad advice just not 100% of the story. Once in a corner you can still be trailing off the brakes. Or a deer runs onto the road.
The champ school (online, affordable) goes pretty deep into that, and Nick's video 100 points of grip.

[draser]

Several comments in no particular order:

Press the left grip to initiate a left turn (or turn more - tighter if you are running wide).

There is an utube where this guy I believe was right turning and running wide, with a truck coming the other way. He tried moving the handle bars to the right and run straight into the truck.

I'd rather light break if I'm running wide for several reasons: a) speed direct proportional to radius; b) load forks and shorten bike "wheel base" to promote turning; more lean is more risk;

When I got my license there wasn't a BRC either, especially back in Europe. I just bought a bike, rode with no license the nearby streets then went for my exam with police. Getting back into the sport after so many years I thought I can use the class. Actually, this year I took the Ride Like a Pro one, as I watch Jerry's video's all the time.

I love Canyon Chasers as well, especially the "let the corner come to you" advice.

[Bob H]

There is an utube where this guy I believe was right turning and running wide, with a truck coming the other way. He tried moving the handle bars to the right and run straight into the truck.

Are you referring to this one? Almost 5 million views, it is one of the most graphic things I have seen where someone tries to steer a motorcycle as though it was a car, turning the "steering wheel" to the "right" away from the oncoming hazard.
He is, in essence pushing the left grip which makes him turn left, and into the truck.
All he had to do was correct his lane position - and regardless of bicycle or motorcycle anything with 2 wheels has the turn INITIATE (or deepen) by countersteering.
EDIT - Looks like youtube thought the video was too graphic to view without a disclaimer. You click the "watch on youtube" or search youtube for "Consequences of not understanding Counter-steering on a motorcycle" and the same video appears with a title "Motorcycle Crashes Head on Into Fire Truck"

It is on one hand "instinctive" and people don't have to think about it.
I force myself to think about it, and drill it every time I ride.

I'd rather light break if I'm running wide for several reasons: a) speed direct proportional to radius; b) load forks and shorten bike "wheel base" to promote turning; more lean is more risk...

Yep, agreed - but I don't see that as an "either / or" because I would also be countersteering to stay in my lane.
Today I did a 6 hour huge loop in the canyons of California, and someone was in a car going around a corner into a third of my lane across the double yellow lines.
No drama for me, I adjusted my lane position (by countersteering) and resided in the remaining lane that he left me. And yes, slowed down.

[Bob H]

Same video that hasn't been flagged by YouTube (yet) for age restriction.

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