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Started by Gene, Jan 12, 2024, 06:23 PM

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Gene

and you have installed cylinder heads...
Bolting it back together, you have to torque the headbolts, making sure to do it in a cross pattern according to the manual.

My Dad the mechanical engineer had some advice, I wonder what you think.
1) Tighten the head bolts in stages to the proper torque.
2) Once you have them tightened, loosen all bolts again, (in stages)
3) repeat number one.

According to him, this helps to "lessen" or elimiminate any residual stress.

Anyone else do this?
1985 Honda CB 650sc with 14,000 miles

Pete in PA

I agree with #1, but not the rest.

You follow the manual exclusively.
92 Honda 750 Nighthawk
Previously: 250 Nighthawk, FJ-09, ST1300, FZ-07, CBR1100XX, V65 Sabre, 83 650 Nighthawk.  Two XR650L's, KLX650C.

mollusc

If you follow a staged tightening process, that should prevent any torsion stresses developing in the head.

Also -- although not applicable to Nighthawks -- loosening a TTY head bolt will ruin it, so there's no way that I would do this on a vehicle that uses that type of head bolt.
1984 Honda Nighthawk 700S
2012 Honda NC700X
2005 Vespa GT200
1982 Yamaha Maxim 550 (sold)
2006 BMW R850R (sold)
1981 Honda CX500B (sold)

Bob H

Quote from: Gene on Jan 12, 2024, 06:23 PM2) Once you have them tightened, loosen all bolts again, (in stages)
I never did that on the heads I worked on - and never heard of it before.

Looking at theory to do that or not, I would imagine the more important concept is getting that head gasket compressed to proper spec and leave it alone. Walk away slowly, don't spook it.
1993 Nighthawk 750

mollusc

^^^^
Another excellent reason not to do this.  Head gaskets compress, and don't spring back.
1984 Honda Nighthawk 700S
2012 Honda NC700X
2005 Vespa GT200
1982 Yamaha Maxim 550 (sold)
2006 BMW R850R (sold)
1981 Honda CX500B (sold)